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Darkhell153 · Apr 15, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Here's my idea to use up balth faction

Buy 1 skill point for a character (any character) 500 faction
Transfer Balth Faction to the Guild- 5k faction per transfer (guild can use it to buy new things and unlock secret stuff for the guild, don't ask me waht that's for the designers to decide)
Buy gold coins for xunlai account 10k faction for 500 coins. (this should do some good)
Transfer Faction into Title (talk to priest of balthazaar):
Warrior of Light- requires 250k Balthazaar transfer, +2 holy damage with attacks.
Warrior of Darkness- requires 250k Balthazaar transfer, +2 shadow damage with attacks. (once you start a title you can only begin the other after you get the first. If you have both you must switch between them to decide which bonus you get).
Buy new raw material space in Xunlai storage account 10k for 20 more raw materials.
Buy raw materials 100 faction for 10 coins worth.

Some of this probably wont' go through but it'd help keep PvP worthwhile.

BlackSephir · Apr 15, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Yeah, pvp worthwhile for those who play pve...

NeHoMaR · Apr 15, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Why should PvE only people shut up? Is it because they're the ones who are challenging you to say that PvPers shouldn't get high end PvE armour?
When we can buy Fame in end-game areas, then you can come and whine. Until then, they stay seperate.

Puff! I have no words for you! ..... well, maybe some: If I can buy fame in end areas of PvE I will just go and buy it in one minute, because I play PvE too, and I have many characters in end areas of the game! So, I always win, because I play 100% of this game

and you obviously don't! (also, this are my finals words for you and for any other one posting here about PvPers don't deserve better armors, I stop here and now)

Dean Harper · Apr 15, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

/signed

ugh, do i HAVE to type in at least 12 characters? XD

Darkhell153 · Apr 15, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

BlackSephir, the titles the coins the guild stuff (no clue what they'd put in) those are for pvp too. Duh! The tites will help in pvp and the coins can be used to buy runes. Also you can help your guild buff up. What else can you really do wtih faction. Why don't you think before you talk?

BlackSephir · Apr 15, 2007, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by Darkhell153

BlackSephir, the titles the coins the guild stuff (no clue what they'd put in) those are for pvp too. Duh! The tites will help in pvp and the coins can be used to buy runes. Also you can help your guild buff up. What else can you really do wtih faction. Why don't you think before you talk?

What are you talking about?
This "guild stuff" you're talking about- you don't even know what you want it to be

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(guild can use it to buy new things and unlock secret stuff for the guild, don't ask me waht that's for the designers to decide)

Yeah, a bit of "oh I don't know what it's supposed to be" will help my guild...

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Buy 1 skill point for a character (any character) 500 faction

Enlighten me (I play mostly pvp)- what for do I need skill points on my pvp characters?

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Buy gold coins for xunlai account 10k faction for 500 coins.

Again, pvp player

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Transfer Faction into Title (talk to priest of balthazaar):

That will do, but if there will be titlers for FB it should be free title, not based on how much fb you give

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Warrior of Light- requires 250k Balthazaar transfer, +2 holy damage with attacks.

Again, pvp player, same goes for warrior of darkness or w/e and materials buying

I see you want to spend FB but...
Offering fb to things you posted is as good as throwing fb away

And, no
It wont keep pvp worthwhile
It will make pve farmers come to RA to make some 'easy fb' to trade it for materials/warrior of whateverness

Darkhell153 · Apr 15, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Buy gold coins for xunlai account 10k faction for 500 coins.
Again, pvp player

duh, balth faction is supposed to help everything I don't care what you play mostly and neither does anyone else.

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It will make pve farmers come to RA to make some 'easy fb' to trade it for materials/warrior of whateverness

again stupidity, if they do come over to pvp and they play mostly pve their going to get their butts kicked and nothing's going to happen. So please use your common sense, this isn't about what the hell you play because frankly no one cares. Most people play a little of each at the very least. And I even play mostly pvp or Ab fights and I'm posting this so don't think I'm not thinking about pvp players.

MithranArkanere · Apr 15, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Dubby

You also have to think about things from the company's point of view, not just ours.

"What's keeping them playing? What do they go for? Do we want them to leave? Should we give them more to work for? What have they purchased so far, would they purchase more?"

Those kinds of things, so this is a valid idea I think.

The answer is easy: To Win.

It's PvP. The only grind there is the unlocking, anything else is just, fight, fight and fight.

BlackSephir · Apr 15, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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duh, balth faction is supposed to help everything I don't care what you play mostly and neither does anyone else.

Huh? Really?
Cause, you know, I think the idea of unlocking new armours for pvp isn't going to help but it is cool -,-

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again stupidity

I bet you hear that often

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this isn't about what the hell you play because frankly no one cares.

Same goes for you kid
Feeling bad because I don't like your ideas?
Well- b _ _ e me - guess what...

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And I even play mostly pvp or Ab fights and I'm posting this so don't think I'm not thinking about pvp players.

Oh, of course you are thinking about pvp players
I bet you were thinkig a lot about pvp players when you posted your magnificent ideas of warriors of darkness or whatever...
Or when you said that we should be able to trade our fb for materials... yes, I believe that would help me in HA, and this 500 gold for 10k fb? How very useful in gvg

Btw#1- if you're here just to tell me that my opinions don't matter- go away, I'm stubborn and I won't listen... and besides, look- there are many topics where you can say to anyone "no one cares what you think"
Btw#2- learn how to quote someone

Darkhell153 · Apr 15, 2007, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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duh, balth faction is supposed to help everything I don't care what you play mostly and neither does anyone else.

Huh? Really?
Cause, you know, I think the idea of unlocking new armours for pvp isn't going to help but it is cool -,-

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again stupidity

I bet you hear that often

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this isn't about what the hell you play because frankly no one cares.

Same goes for you kid
Feeling bad because I don't like your ideas?
Well- b _ _ e me - guess what...

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And I even play mostly pvp or Ab fights and I'm posting this so don't think I'm not thinking about pvp players.

Oh, of course you are thinking about pvp players
I bet you were thinkig a lot about pvp players when you posted your magnificent ideas of warriors of darkness or whatever...
Or when you said that we should be able to trade our fb for materials... yes, I believe that would help me in HA, and this 500 gold for 10k fb? How very useful in gvg

Btw#1- if you're here just to tell me that my opinions don't matter- go away, I'm stubborn and I won't listen... and besides, look- there are many topics where you can say to anyone "no one cares what you think"
Btw#2- learn how to quote someone
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Right lesson learned, your values and opinions are all a bunch of worthless crap that no one really cares about. Got it. Perhaps you'd like to show some actual knowledge of the game before you start pretending you know anything fool. Your opinions are obviously worthless to anyone so plz learn something or stay out of the forums because I dont' really care waht you think of my ideas.

MithranArkanere · Apr 15, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

PvP players have already Unique emotes.

Isn't that enough? I can't earn an emote killing margonites.
And I have slained quite a lot, by the way.

nugzta · Apr 16, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Just make factions can be exchanged into victory tokens. I need more creme brules, flasks of firewater and flames of balthazar.

unmatchedfury · Apr 16, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Yet you can't get Hero emotes in PvE.
Some hings stick to PvE, some things stick to PvP.
Flashy armor will be in PvP only.
Ascended armor should stay in PvE.

I won't say no to make more armor types available for PvP charcters, as long as they are not the ones with 'ascended' status.
But I think that all the 1.5k armors are available for PvP.

ACtually if i might point out its possible to have nice PvP emotes on a PvE char while its not possible to have nice armor on a PvP char

Sorn Xarann · Apr 16, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

sorry! didnt see this!

MithranArkanere · Apr 16, 2007, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by unmatchedfury

ACtually if i might point out its possible to have nice PvP emotes on a PvE char while its not possible to have nice armor on a PvP char

You can:
- Make a PvE character.
- Make her buy the armor.
- Take her to PvP.

It's not really about characters, but about packs bought.

If you buy a PvP pack, you get PvP only.
If you want the armor, you have to buy a PvE campaing.

olly123 · Apr 16, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

/signed

i so want this

BlueNovember · May 01, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Evilsod, NeHoMaR, many others;

The "well, PVE players should be able to buy fame" is not a valid analogy. The true reverse would be PVE players able to buy faciton, which I think is a great idea also, but not for discussion here.

The key point is that many PVP players do PVE, and have the gold to buy FoW, or have FoW already. Inability for them to earn gold is not a problem.
The problem is that you cannot use a PVE char in PVP without crippling your ability to move between builds and weapon sets. You would literally have to have your entire storage full of weapons/foci/wands/shields, many times over if you wanted to play on different primary classes.

That said, I would be happy if I had something to do with my faction. I still like my converting to flames idea. The new Tournament Tokens may be acceptable, depending on what uses they have to PVE players.

/signed (again, I think. I post in these threads a lot. :P)

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Originally Posted by unmatchedfury

...it's possible to have nice PvP emotes on a PvE char while it's not possible to have nice armour on a PvP char

Very nice point.

Yawgmoth · May 26, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

So Anet horribly screwed the tournament reward system and faction remains completely useless.
My OP probably needs some updating now in relation to the current state of the game and with new ideas and i'll do that later.

Red_Six · Oct 22, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40

I think they could add one time use prizes like a great fish that jumps out of the water in random arenas or a fiery dragon that appears in hero’s ascent. The more faction spent, the greater the size/effect of the prize, with the mother of all apparitions for 170,000 faction. This would in effect be a useless waste of faction but I think it is better than nothing.

Red Sonya · Oct 22, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

PVP combat is reward enough for PVP players. There is no need for a reward system for those that play PVP and have exhausted all their faction earned exchanging it for skills. PVP players don't deserve the elite armors of pve that was set aside for pve players. Though the elite I suppose are entitled to some of those skins as they have been added recently for the very elite players. I can accept that. But, nothing more for pvp players in the way of rewards. You chose to play pvp and bypass all the effort required to get skills and armors etc of the pve game so you should not have any or many of the advantages of the pve player who put forth his/her effort to get them and then get to pvp. /unsigned.